Your statement, E.L., sums it up completely: "What it boils down to is a society that wants quick results so that they can carry on with their lives." That poor attitude, combined with politicians who have forgotten how to deal with dictators and despots. I despair for Ukraine.
I can understand people fearing a WW111, but how can anyone suggest that Russia shouldn't be 'humiliated' when Russia has committed to human rights agreements, and yet now has decided to: apply the death penalty; demolish a sovereign country by flattening it to rubble while allowing heinous crimes against innocent civilians.
I feel that appeasement would be totally wrong. Would they stop at Ukraine and who would be next? The list is quite large - Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria. and if Poland fell to Russia that might finally jolt the Germans into action.
If Russia has now left ECHR and is reinstating the death penalty, surely the UN could take some action. Perhaps China should be reminded that Russian missiles could well hit them if Russia so chooses. I thought the UN was set up to stop renegade countries from bullying each other and perhaps China should be reminded of that also!
At the moment we can only hope and pray that the Russian people will take action. So many of Putin's senior officers have been killed in action and so many families will never know the fate of their loved ones and may well ask "Is Mother Russia worth all this"?
Keep going EL,the forensic way you set out the facts and the timelines it is much appreciated by all of us.
Your statement, E.L., sums it up completely: "What it boils down to is a society that wants quick results so that they can carry on with their lives." That poor attitude, combined with politicians who have forgotten how to deal with dictators and despots. I despair for Ukraine.
I can understand people fearing a WW111, but how can anyone suggest that Russia shouldn't be 'humiliated' when Russia has committed to human rights agreements, and yet now has decided to: apply the death penalty; demolish a sovereign country by flattening it to rubble while allowing heinous crimes against innocent civilians.
I feel that appeasement would be totally wrong. Would they stop at Ukraine and who would be next? The list is quite large - Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria. and if Poland fell to Russia that might finally jolt the Germans into action.
If Russia has now left ECHR and is reinstating the death penalty, surely the UN could take some action. Perhaps China should be reminded that Russian missiles could well hit them if Russia so chooses. I thought the UN was set up to stop renegade countries from bullying each other and perhaps China should be reminded of that also!
At the moment we can only hope and pray that the Russian people will take action. So many of Putin's senior officers have been killed in action and so many families will never know the fate of their loved ones and may well ask "Is Mother Russia worth all this"?
Keep going EL,the forensic way you set out the facts and the timelines it is much appreciated by all of us.